{"id":20096,"date":"2026-05-22T16:23:38","date_gmt":"2026-05-22T16:23:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/2026\/05\/22\/ex-ftx-europe-chief-repackages-400m-collapse-into-risk-free-upsideonly-trading-bet\/"},"modified":"2026-05-22T16:23:38","modified_gmt":"2026-05-22T16:23:38","slug":"ex-ftx-europe-chief-repackages-400m-collapse-into-risk-free-upsideonly-trading-bet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/2026\/05\/22\/ex-ftx-europe-chief-repackages-400m-collapse-into-risk-free-upsideonly-trading-bet\/","title":{"rendered":"Ex\u2011FTX Europe chief repackages $400M collapse into \u201crisk\u2011free\u201d UpsideOnly trading bet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/crypto.news\/app\/uploads\/2024\/02\/crypto-news-FTX-repaying-option03.webp\" \/><\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"is-style-lead\">Mario Nawfal\u2019s viral interview casts Patrick Gruhn as one of the few FTX insiders who not only survived but materially profited from the wreckage.<\/p>\n<div id=\"cn-block-summary-block_1d9f9ca28a33a85fc7616cdf9afa0deb\" class=\"cn-block-summary\">\n<p>\n        <span class=\"tabs__item is-selected\">Summary<\/span>\n    <\/p>\n<div class=\"cn-block-summary__content\">\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Gruhn sold his firm to FTX for about $400 million and later repurchased FTX Europe\u2019s assets for roughly $32.7 million after bankruptcy<\/li>\n<li>His new platform UpsideOnly executes trades with company funds and shares profits with users but absorbs all losses itself<\/li>\n<li>The AI engine behind UpsideOnly is trained on more than 22 billion retail trades and aims to fix structural traps that wipe out 95 percent of traders<\/li>\n<\/ul><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><!-- .cn-block-summary --><\/p>\n<p>Patrick Gruhn, the former CEO of FTX Europe who sold his business to Sam Bankman Fried\u2019s empire for around $400 million before buying it back for roughly $30 million after the collapse, is <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/MarioNawfal\/status\/2057602337674301703?s=20\">now<\/a> pitching a \u201cyou never lose\u201d AI trading platform called UpsideOnly that uses only company capital to place trades on user predictions.<\/p>\n<p>US court filings later described the deal as part of a roughly $376 million spending spree to secure a European license.<\/p>\n<p>After the exchange <a href=\"https:\/\/crypto.news\/ftx-execs-called-to-court-over-alleged-3ac-liquidation\/\">imploded<\/a>, the FTX estate sued to claw back hundreds of millions, but ultimately agreed to sell FTX Europe\u2019s assets back to Gruhn and co founder Robin Matzke for $32.7 million under a February 2024 settlement reported by the Wall Street Journal and others.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How did Patrick Gruhn turn a $400M FTX saga into UpsideOnly\u2019s \u2018risk free\u2019 pitch?<\/h2>\n<p>In the interview, Nawfal summarizes the arc with tabloid clarity, saying Gruhn \u201csold his company to FTX for $400 million before it collapsed, watched it implode, then bought it back for $30 million,\u201d before pivoting to tout UpsideOnly as \u201cthe most interesting idea in trading right now.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Gruhn, who previously outlined FTX Europe\u2019s ambitions to dominate derivatives and win retail traders across the bloc in an\u00a0<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ftx-europe-patrick-gruhn-tomorrowland-crypto-derivatives-sam-bankman-fried-2022-3\">Insider<\/a>\u00a0profile, now leans on that history to argue that the problem was not leverage or innovation but how platforms weaponized both against their own customers.<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.kucoin.com\/news\/flash\/perpetuals-launches-upsideonly-a-risk-free-ai-trading-platform\"\/><\/p>\n<p>In Nawfal\u2019s telling, Gruhn\u2019s take is unsparing on his former partners: \u201cFTX would probably be bigger than Binance today if <a href=\"https:\/\/crypto.news\/binance-ceo-criticizes-sam-bankman-frieds-actions\/\">Sam Bankman Fried<\/a> hadn\u2019t destroyed the company,\u201d and what happened was \u201cnot outright fraud from day one, it was embezzlement, the same thing banks do legally, except FTX wasn\u2019t a bank.\u201d<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/MarioNawfal\/status\/2057602337674301703\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"\/><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-is-upsideonly-and-can-you-never-lose-trading\">What is UpsideOnly and can \u2018you never lose\u2019 trading actually work?<\/h2>\n<p>UpsideOnly, built under the Nasdaq listed Perpetuals.com umbrella, is described in the interview as a trading and market prediction platform where \u201cyou trade with their money, lose nothing if you\u2019re wrong, split the profits 50 50 if you\u2019re right.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">INTERVIEW: Patrick Gruhn was the CEO of FTX Europe. He sold his company to FTX for $400 million before it collapsed, watched it implode, then bought it back for $30 million.<\/p>\n<p>Now he&#8217;s built something that might be the most interesting idea in trading right now.<\/p>\n<p>His company\u2026 <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/3swlvUSJ91\">pic.twitter.com\/3swlvUSJ91<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MarioNawfal\/status\/2057602337674301703?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">May 21, 2026<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>A recent launch release says Perpetuals has trained its proprietary BayesShield AI engine \u201con more than 22 billion retail trades,\u201d combining that dataset with crowd signals from users who make directional calls across equities, crypto, commodities and forex without putting up their own capital.<\/p>\n<p>According to Perpetuals, \u201cUpsideOnly is the first of its kind a risk free platform to predict markets utilizing proprietary AI trained on more than 22 billion retail trades to ensure users can never lose money, only win it,\u201d because \u201cusers never put up their own money for trading\u201d and \u201cPerpetuals trades exclusively with the company\u2019s own capital.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>    <!-- .cn-block-related-link --><\/p>\n<p>If a trade wins, Perpetuals shares profits with the users whose predictions contributed to that decision, but if it loses \u201cthe user loses nothing,\u201d a structure Gruhn contrasts with conventional derivatives venues that he says sell \u201cdesperate people the dream of escaping financial pressure overnight\u201d and then leave them \u201cstructurally doomed against market makers and professional liquidity providers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Nawfal\u2019s interview notes that UpsideOnly\u2019s pitch rests on a sharp division of labor between humans and machines, with Gruhn arguing that \u201chumans are actually much better at identifying entry points than exit points, which is where AI takes over,\u201d and claiming that most traders \u201clock in tiny wins but refuse to accept losses until they get wiped out.\u201d<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/MarioNawfal\/status\/2057602337674301703\"\/><\/p>\n<p>The clip also veers into outright indictment of leverage casinos, with timestamps flagging segments on \u201csuicides, addiction and financial ruin caused by predatory trading platforms and influencers,\u201d and the claim that \u201ccasinos actually give people far better odds than crypto leverage trading platforms,\u201d a comparison that echoes prior\u00a0<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/crypto.news\/crypto-market-outlook-as-iran-blames-u-s-naval-blockade-for-stalled-peace-talks\/\">crypto market outlook<\/a>\u00a0coverage on systemic retail losses.<\/p>\n<p>Perpetuals\u2019 own disclaimer is the tell: if a \u201cyou never lose\u201d platform openly worries about its regulatory treatment, model risk, and capital sustainability, the more realistic base case is not that it has solved market psychology but that it is rehypothecating it in a new wrapper. <\/p>\n<p>However the BayesShield engine is configured, underwriting retail error at scale in pursuit of edge extracted from the same pathologies that blew users up on FTX and Binance looks less like a consumer fix and more like a sophisticated principal book waiting for a bad regime shift, a liquidity crunch, or a model miss to expose where the losses really sit. <\/p>\n<p>In that sense, UpsideOnly does not so much abolish the house as move it off-screen, asking traders to trust a balance sheet, an AI stack, and a risk committee that will almost certainly not feel \u201crisk-free\u201d the first time a fat-tail event arrives and the company has to decide whether to keep eating losses or quietly rewrite the rules.<a href=\"https:\/\/crypto.news\/wp\/wp-admin\/post.php?post=14462237&amp;action=edit\" target=\"_blank\"\/><\/p>\n<p>    <!-- .cn-block-related-link --><\/p><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/crypto.news\/ex-ftx-europe-chief-repackages-400m-collapse-into-risk-free-upsideonly-trading-bet\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mario Nawfal\u2019s viral interview casts Patrick Gruhn as one of the few FTX insiders who not only survived but materially profited from the wreckage. Summary Gruhn sold his firm to FTX for about $400 million and later repurchased FTX Europe\u2019s assets for roughly $32.7 million after bankruptcy His new platform UpsideOnly executes trades with company [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":20097,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"tdm_status":"","tdm_grid_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"kronos_expire_date":[],"class_list":["post-20096","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-crypto"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20096","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=20096"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20096\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/20097"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=20096"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=20096"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=20096"},{"taxonomy":"kronos_expire_date","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cryptoted.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/kronos_expire_date?post=20096"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}